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Discussion on “Situgraphic…” and its comments: Redas Diržys and Vassya Vassileva Print
Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:25

 

R.D. That was very good probably first time to meet with your professional writing (Lotman, Vernadsky...) - read thoroughly and decided not to answer (in the same text), because I really like this kind of open-to-discussion form with your intervention...

V.V. Dear Redas, I wouldn’t call my scribbles a professional writing; it’s only a response to a dear friend. As we go on with our talk

R.D. What’s due to the question - what might be considered a possible condition for common action - yes Vernadsky's noosphere is one of the cases, but all that transcendence story of spiritualism actually was substituted with the vulgarity of cyberspace what is not an adequate one. If to talk on transcendence - that branch of thinking remained in the same scholastic logic but because of increasing mysticism it simply reduced ability for action. I cannot agree that increasing number of thoughts improves physicality - that's from materialistic point of view of course. Even worse - I think thoughts leads to further thinking, but action leads to further action - that is why I am trying to deal with artists (instead of just theoreticians) - the point is balance between action and thought...

V.V. Much inkling - re: the relationship between ‘thinking’ and ‘doing’. I am inclined to consider thinking also a way of ‘doing’ - in the aspect of a transitive self-consciousness modified by thinking. Another is the verbal expressing as doing - arguments well developed in pragmatics of language.

From the other hand I see your point and I agree with you. I witness and assert how the more people know and the more they work on their intellectual condition, the more indeterminate and feeble they become in their actions. Such people must have already invested themselves in the situation of being ‘distant’ and this is indeed inherent in the intellectual stance (the observer, the objectivist relation) and by doing so, they commit to a crucial error– they misplace the very reason for their intellectual work. The devoted thinker often loses the pre-logic of their practice. I am both sympathetic and annoyed with such smartness I meet at the universities over and over again. At times I wonder about the effort into trying to design an action on the basis of a sensed intention when it is clear that such effort often ends up in no possibility to act for it is based on one valance only, the rationale. Whereas I highly value any willingness to fathom I also see how frequently our intent cannot be clearly identified by us; and it is exactly in the spontaneous act of acting we sometimes find sense, knowledge and self-recognition (the latter not given to us a priori).

And yes, some balance between action and thought as you suggest… some equilibrium if not achievable at least to be hunted. Ignis fatuus came in mind. 

R.D. What's due to semantic translatability - very good question, but my whole text was based on the notion, that in the society which uses slightly [trans]shifted signifiers translatability doesn't matter - that is immediately filled with creative (in the best case) or ideological (in a usual case) elements... to say truth - I saw so much failures based on very well organized discourse with thoroughly selected and well articulated the terminology...but, you know, that immediately gets artificial - actually just before starting I can predict the results...that is very boring...as the head of the school administration I know how to manipulate people....

V.V. I know. I agree.

What have kept me hopeful though, and I can be very naïve but I don’t think my talks with you, Martin, Roddy, Judit, Justin and Meabh can ever be artificial or boring. Not for me.

R.D. Not particularly this conference, no…our case was exactly an opposite – it was a biggest pleasure, but afterwards that was quite hard to connect things together and to step forward …I am not sure it was a failure… it made me to think.I really was waiting for your comments on what I’ve described as Byzantine, because I mostly deal with very echoed elements, but things you wrote are the object of my thinking at the moment...what I thought about canon it was not exactly "stylistic canon" but rather canon of approach - what you very interesting described as total chaos and eclectism...

V.V. I thought that was the reason you sent the text to me but I wasn’t sure. Actually, I did write in response something on the Byzantine tradition (even when I am clearly not an expert) and then I deleted my notes, assuming you might not be so interested. Now I see I was wrong.

R,D. The mostly amazing thing about situgraphic is that there is no need for experts – contrary it is based on your own unique feeling. It’s not about objectiveness – it’s more about sincerity…

V.V. Again, in your previous mail the basic assumption about the canon in the Byzantine tradition seems accurate. I just paid attention to those examples out of the canon for I’ve always been fascinated by them; those are again examples from the periphery, where the control is somehow loosen, thus some potential for creativity. In general the more humble the medieval ‘artists’ are i.e. the less personal and intimate moments they incorporate in the work, the more valuable their work is. The medieval art is an act of unification. It is not individual and spontaneous; it has a well-defined purpose… hence the subordination of the individual creative will by the canon. All pretensions for authorship are reprimanded and chastised. Generally, the individualized approach is placed on the same footing with the satanic, for the human pride and pretension are amongst the biggest sins. We can also recognize the old greek criticism for certain character of an artist being on the age of some heretic self-conceit that must be constantly brought to reason, tamed.

There are things in common between Eastern and Western Christianity but also different principles. And it is a well-known fact that the Byzantine tradition is far more inexorable in keeping the canon.

When to the canon dealing with administrative issues… I am thinking of the cultural destiny/destination of my country much influenced by The Forth Ecumenical Council (year 451) when decided that Bulgaria would go under the Constantinopolitan jurisdiction, not the Roman one. 

R.D. And one more thing to add - I was not so clear on it, but Stephanie also wrote comments on it - she pointed one very interesting element - the westerners also going towards the direction of identifying themselves with the eastern forms of thinking and becoming kind of over-easterners - kind of mutual process of what is called Stockholm syndrome... very interesting point.

V.V. Yes, I’ve experienced thisWould like to read Stephanie’s comments.

R.D. Bulgarian diaphonic singing - that’s very good point! Are you singing by the way?

V.V. I can certainly sing, don’t know how I sing. haha.